For episode 47 of the Lion Zeal Show, I’ve put together another special episode.
Instead of interviewing one successful SEO, I’m sitting down with 5 different affiliates and asking them how they hit their first consistent $1,000 month.
For anyone planning on scaling affiliate SEO as a business, I highly recommend watching this.
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- 1:10 – Chris just copied the structure and setup of an already successful site, and applied it to a different niche
- 8:44 – Ken tested and “failed” with multiple low competition niches until he found one that works, then become an authority in that niche
- 19:45 – Matt tried multiple niches, found one that worked, then doubled down on it by building multiple sites and taking over the first page
- 24:27 – Aqib bought a site and applied basic SEO (PBNs, onpage, etc) to scale it up
- 33:42 – Clarentino built multiple EMD style sites focused on the forex niche, then gets paid a commission of peoples deposits
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Daryl Rosser: Hey guys, Daryl Rosser here. Welcome back to another episode of the Lion Zeal show. In this episode, this is a very special episode, because I’m not just sitting down with one person and going through their story.
In fact, we’re sitting down with a whole bunch of different people and we’re breaking down how they hit their first consistent $1,000 a month from affiliate SEO. So breaking down a whole different bunch of stories on how these different people all hit $1,000 a month consistently from affiliate SEO.
This is a great episode if you’re struggling with getting started with affiliate marketing, or frankly just not hitting $1,000 a month yet. Because, you’ll see how all these different people managed to hit that target of $1,000 a month from affiliate SEO.
So, let’s just get into all these interviews, they’re all short, kind of six, seven, eight, nine minutes long each. And, let’s just go straight into it. There’s a lot of great content in there and great motivation and nuggets for anyone starting out and try to scale this up to at least $1,000 a month.
So, let’s get straight into it. I hope you enjoy the episode.
Chris, hey, thanks for joining me today. Let’s just go straight into it because we don’t have much time. Do you want to start off with explaining the story of how you hit your first consistent $1,000 a month from affiliate SEO?
Chris just copied the structure and setup of an already successful site, and applied it to a different niche
Christopher L.: Well, it was actually pretty easy for me in the beginning. I started from online poker and I wanted to add something to another income stream for me. I had a friend who told me about Amazon affiliate program.
So, I basically just copied his site, the style of his site, in another niche. And build everything myself. I wrote the content. I got a free host and never paid a cent at the beginning. And after two to three months, I made my first $1k a month with the site.
Daryl Rosser: That’s insane.
Christopher L.: Correct, but it was a lot easier back in 2013. From that I just interlinked my sites and stuff like that and got hit pretty hard by Penguin. But I came out of it too.
Daryl Rosser: That’s a good lesson. When you said free hosting, what did you mean?
Christopher L.: I just had a hosting that was free for two months and after that you had to pay it.
Daryl Rosser: Okay. Fair enough. So, you had a friend, you’re from Poker, but you had a friend that was doing some stuff like this. And, you just straight up copied how the site looked and everything, and changed the niche?
Christopher L.: Yeah, I used his theme and all of the links and stuff.
Daryl Rosser: What was the link looking like?
Christopher L.: It was mostly comment links. It was pretty much spam to be honest. It’s wasn’t-
Daryl Rosser: But it worked back then.
Christopher L.: I didn’t use any guest posts, or PBN, so stuff like that back then.
Daryl Rosser: Okay. So, from start of the site to making that $1k was only three months. How long did it take you though from thinking about it and seeing your friend was doing it to start the site in the first place?
Christopher L.: It was like one month, where I looked at it, and just decided to start it. That’s what’s kind of hindering me right now is that I’m overthinking a lot of stuff and then I was just, “Okay, let’s do it”.
Daryl Rosser: That’s almost the right way to do it. I think that a lot of people get so caught up, they’ll see a friend doing it, they’ll do research, they’ll spend six months deciding which niche they’re going to go into, how they’re going to setup the site. You just came across it? Or, it was like, test it out, and just made a site?
Christopher L.: Yes. I just thought about it, “Okay, if I spend like a week on it and it’s going to make me like $100 a month for the next two years, it’s a good investment on my dime”. So, I just did it.
Daryl Rosser: How did you come up with the niche idea? Because obviously you didn’t copy your friends, I guess.
Christopher L.: No, I did not. I just looked at just Google and looked if there were affiliate site that didn’t look as good. And, looked like it could be done.
Daryl Rosser: So, just looked around Amazon, found interesting products, or?
Christopher L.: Yes. At the Google search results and analyzed the sites and just optimized. Like, I was doing video site and most site were optimized by, stuff like that.
Daryl Rosser: Okay. That makes sense. So, what did your site look like? Was it, 500 word, 1,000 words?
Christopher L.: I would say, the start page was like 500 words back then and the optimal being 100 and 300 words, so somethings it should be considered same content by now.
Daryl Rosser: Definitely. But, whatever worked back then.
Christopher L.: I think a lot of people overthink stuff, like they wanted to make. But, you have to adapt. You have to wait and see where to do what works, and adapt if it doesn’t.
Daryl Rosser: Absolutely. It doesn’t matter if it was showtime at a time, it got going and it went pretty well. What was some big lessons you learned from doing that?
Christopher L.: Big lessons I learned from doing it?
Daryl Rosser: Put you on the spot.
Christopher L.: I would say that I don’t give up. If I get hit by Penguin, or something, I look what I can do differently and I use my knowledge to get that out. I got hit by Penguin in October, 2013. And, what I did was just redirect my site to a new domain.
Daryl Rosser: That world pretty well back then. Yeah, that’s perfect. I guess obviously, also. Look out for what updates. I guess there’s only so much, you were very new to it at the time. So, it was very difficult to predict.
Christopher L.: You have to lookout for updates and you have to know what will work in the future and what not. But, you also have to take some risk. It depends on what you are doing in my opinion. I think it’s good to have different sites. I have sites where I go hard on them.
I have more links that I put to them on. It’s like a shitty PBN I rank with them. So, it’s a lose end that’s kind of to expect. While I have all the other sites, which are getting pretty big where I’m going. Like, what I call building super PBNs. What it’s like. How can you tell the difference between a PBN and a real site.
Daryl Rosser: Yeah. I agree. I think it’s a good idea. There’s also a balance in, like you said, initially when you started off, you just got it live and started making some money really, really, quickly. That’s really, really, quick by the way, three months.
These days, it’s going to be six to twelve months before you even start making it. But, I like that you just took action. I think to many people think too much. But, it’s also balancing it, like when you start making some money, then you should probably start thinking a bit more, like how can I stop getting myself penalized, so you didn’t get destroyed by Penguin at the time, and things like that.
Christopher L.: Yes.
Daryl Rosser: Perfect. Any final thoughts for you on that starting out? Say you’re at zero today, or in your position when you first started out, and you want to hit $1,000 a month from, let’s say Amazon affiliate?
Christopher L.: I think they should start in a new and easy niche, like in a small one. And, just to get through the first results. Because if you start in a niche with, too tough at the beginning, you will lose your focus.
Just start small, if just make like $50 a month, it’s rewarding. If you target something which will take over two years to bank, you will not keep it.
Daryl Rosser: I agree. So, how do you know if it is an easy, or competitive product or niche?
Christopher L.: I usually just analyze all the sites in the niche and look for the links I build, if they have a lot of comment links to just directories, it’s probably pretty easy and if they don’t have a lot of content on it, you just have to assume if they have 100k words, you have to do at least 200k.
And if they have like 50, you can see 50 links, you have to probably 200 links, or something.
Daryl Rosser: Absolutely. So, just look for opportunities and if they’re doing it really badly, then you can probably beat them, and then you know.
Christopher L.: Yes.
Daryl Rosser: All right man.
Christopher L.: Okay.
Daryl Rosser: That’s it. Thanks for you time. This is really cool.
Christopher L.: Okay. Cool.
Ken tested and “failed” with multiple low competition niches until he found one that works, then become an authority in that niche
Daryl Rosser: Hey man, thanks for joining me today. So, to start off, can you say your name and give like a brief introduction as to who you are.
Ken Muise: Yeah, how you doing, my name is Ken Muise. I blog over at contentken.com and I’m an affiliate guy.
Daryl Rosser: Awesome man. So, straight up then, how did you get your very first $1,000 a month from affiliate SEO?
Ken Muise: It was kind of a crazy road actually because I started off making money online, and writing on line, for content and people do, and stuff like that. As time goes on I learned how to chase down the content that I was writing and I saw that people were actually making money with this content and stuff.
I was like, well man, well I need to create some sites. I did a little bit of research and might first site, like everybody else did, they were horrible. I mean, I missed the mark on so many things. Didn’t know how to monetize. Or, I just didn’t have enough traffic to monetize with AdSense, which is the get go.
As you learn, you start reading blogs like yours and Matt’s and stuff like that. I got into Long Tail Pro eventually and started looking at key word competition and how to chase down my competition.
So, my first successful site was something I found that was, it was a golden egg, there were no affiliate sites, everything was just a storefront, nobody was adding real value, real content, it was just like a storefront and like a 200 word article every three months.
It was just horrible stuff. So, then I jumped on that and then March of 2015 that we created the site and then June we made $300.
So, then I was like, let’s keep on going here. I just started adding more content. I was reviewing as much stuff as possible within the niche. That was in May, June, and then September, October was our first $1,000 month. So, once I found the niche that worked.
Daryl Rosser: That’s pretty quick.
Ken Muise: Yeah. Once I found a niche that worked I doubled-down on it. I stopped everything else, didn’t do anything and I just kept on writing reviews. Going out to more key words and it just took off from there. Since that month we haven’t dropped below that.
Daryl Rosser: That’s awesome man. So, just find what works and just like scale up and focus. I guess you stopped completely having anymore clients at that point.
Ken Muise: Yeah, at that point I didn’t want to write any content for anybody else. I would rather pay someone to write the content to help me scale, so I can add more content.
Daryl Rosser: Do you write any content today?
Ken Muise: I do. I like to write content. So, for my other site that I don’t have, they’re not making great money, I write the content for them because I like to put all the money that I make pay into the site that’s successful right now to try and keep on growing that.
Daryl Rosser: Okay. So, with that very first site then, how did you stumble upon your niche, or the key words, or anything like that?
Ken Muise: You know, that’s funny too. I was so frustrated with writing online and creating sites that didn’t work, I just said screw it. I’m going to find something that has low competition in Long Tail Pro that I actually like doing. So, I can actually know, because I want to be able to beat through it. Because I want them to be able to beat through it and stay with it.
And I did, I found something that I love doing and that I could talk about and I didn’t have to go out and find anybody who was an expert in the niche. So, I could do it all myself and you know I was just, every night in bed laying down just typing. Just writing reviews. It was grind at first, but then since then it’s been pretty much passive, so it’s great.
Daryl Rosser: It’s very cool. That is your very first affiliate site?
Ken Muise: That was my very first successful affiliate site.
Daryl Rosser: Got it.
Ken Muise: I had tried other stuff before, but I was always so naïve, I was always thinking AdSense, AdSense, AdSense. I was so impatient with Amazon that when I actually did go affiliate and Amazon, that’s when stuff started working out. I’m sorry, I don’t have on my, “Do Not Disturb”.
Daryl Rosser: No worries. So, I’m curious then, how many sites, if you remember, were not successful before you eventually stumbled into that one?
Ken Muise: It was about five or six man. I had good ideas actually, Daryl. I just didn’t know, I didn’t have a really good way of monetizing I guess. I had a site for men’s grooming and shaving before it was a fad, before everyone was doing it, because someone you know is successful at it.
But, I just didn’t stick with it. I didn’t have the patience to work it out, or know how to build links, or get links, and stuff like that. But, once you figure that out and you find something that works, it works well.
Daryl Rosser: Okay. If you could go back to speak to yourself when you’re that content writer, and you wanted to give yourself some advice to get started with affiliate SEO, what would you say to yourself?
Ken Muise: Preparation. Don’t just jump into something that you think would be interesting without doing the preparation. The research into the market, to find out what actually people like doing and what people are buying and liking.
I think one of the best things about Amazon right now, is that people, they tend to not look at the product page that they are linking too. My conversation on Amazon right now is like 14% and that’s pretty damn high.
Daryl Rosser: Yeah.
Ken Muise: What I do is, I look at every product page that I link too. Because a lot of people use Easy Azon and it’s really easy just to hit.
Highlight Easy Azon click and link to it and they have no idea where they’re sending their guys, or their readers. But, you know, a lot of the Amazon product pages have comparison charts on them, and some of them don’t.
They actually convert a lot better and I actually have one call to action right now that says, “Click here for comparison chart” and they go to the page on Amazon, they find their own comparison chart, so I don’t have to do that damn comparison chart on my site. Their already on Amazon, they’re going to buy it, they just got to get them to click.
Daryl Rosser: That makes a lot of sense. So, you’re deliberately picking out specific products. Haven’t had that before actually. That, you know, convert better based on the line in page content and copy.
Ken Muise: Yeah, because you know, when you go to Amazon a lot of them don’t have reviews, a lot of them don’t have any. Like three people bought the damn thing. It’s somebody whose just fulfillment by Amazon, it’s a third party seller and they don’t pay a lot of attention to their page.
But, if you actually look at a good page, to where people are going to land, then it converts a lot better.
Daryl Rosser: 100%. Are you just doing Amazon affiliate now? Or, are you doing this more than anything else?
Ken Muise: I am. I’m actually going to double down on Amazon now because since the change, everybody else is turned off by it.
So, I’m going to double-down on it so, I mean, I got hit with the Amazon payment change, but a lot of my niches in my sites are in outdoors, and didn’t get hit as badly as some of the others. I’m going to stick with it.
I’m sorry, I shouldn’t be asking you questions, you’re doing the interview, but your client, right?
Daryl Rosser: Client and lead gen affiliate.
Ken Muise: Okay, got it.
Daryl Rosser: It’s affiliate lead gen stuff anyway. I have a question then. What is the difference between what you’re working on and what you’re doing when you were at $300 a month, to when you’re at $1,000 a month?
Ken Muise: Scale. Scale and outreach is the only difference. I mean, once I found a foothold in the niche, it didn’t take me but four months to become, what I think is the authority site in the niche. Once I did that, and I was like all right, I actually have grabbed it by the throat and wouldn’t let anybody else in, is what I did.
I scaled up on content, not just reviews, but general content at well and I started doing outreach with other people who are in the niche and then I got some good links.
Daryl Rosser: Got it, so just added consistently, constantly adding as much content as you possibly could and then reaching out to other people in that space and getting links from them to your site.
Ken Muise: Yeah, and then that one site that we’re talking about, it’s not a traditional static page affiliate site either. It’s a blog front page, so my biggest money pages aren’t the root, it’s somewhere in the middle somewhere.
I found those, what people were hitting, and what Google liked, and I just started beating the crap out of it.
Daryl Rosser: Okay. I also like what you said, that when you found a niche you went in there and looked at all the competition and seen that they didn’t have that much content, and stuff like that, and just basically looked at what they were doing and massively one-upped it. That’s the easiest way to just take over.
Ken Muise: Absolutely. I know a lot of affiliate guys don’t have time for this either, but I actually open comments on mine. On my reviews and so like that, so people are asking questions and you’re supposed to be the expert.
And I actually knew a lot about it, so I’m going to answer these questions and then before you know it, people prefer your site over others because you’re actually there and paying attention.
Daryl Rosser: Cool man. So, someone starting out, the basics of what you did, I don’t know if you’d recommend the same again now, but the basics of what you did was, use that key word research tool to find opportunities, picked a niche, or key words that you had some interest in so you knew a little bit about. And, you just tested sites until you find one that worked and scaled it once it did.
Ken Muise: That’s something I actually like that Matt says a lot, you plant trees. I keep laughing at that analogy. But, you plant trees. Some of them grow up, some of them don’t, but you’re never going to find out if you’re not planting.
Daryl Rosser: Absolutely, I love that analogy. All right man. That pretty much wraps it up. That’s the main sort of nice short interview on like how you got started, how you got your first $1,000. Is there any last minute advice or anything before we wrap it up for anyone that’s interested in doing the same?
Ken Muise: Yeah. A lot of the new people like to rely on Long Tail Pro for key word research and stuff like that. You’ve got to mix it up. You’ve got to go Ahrefs, you’ve got to do the SEMRush. You’ve got to look at a whole bunch of stuff man. Don’t just use Long Tail Pro.
Daryl Rosser: 100%, especially these days as well. Yeah, watching that suitable tools. All right man. Thank you for joining me today on this nice brief interview.
Ken Muise: Can I plug one thing?
Daryl Rosser: Sure, go for it.
Ken Muise: All right. PBNHQ.com for the best expired spam free domains in the world.
Daryl Rosser: Do you get paid for that?
Ken Muise: Yeah, I work for those guys.
Daryl Rosser: Okay.
Ken Muise: Yeah, yeah.
Daryl Rosser: So yeah, you did.
Ken Muise: There you go, cool.
Daryl Rosser: All right man, thanks for joining me and I’m going to have to wrap it up, but that pretty much wraps it up. I’ll catch you later.
Ken Muise: Appreciate it brother, have a good one.
Daryl Rosser: Matt, thanks for joining me today again on the show. Really, really, quick then, how did you hit your first consistent $1,000 a month from affiliate SEO?
Matt tried multiple niches, found one that worked, then doubled down on it by building multiple sites and taking over the first page
Matt Diggity: Okay, affiliate SEO. Let’s see, this is probably about six or maybe seven years ago. I started off with Amazon affiliate and my first time around I made like a yoga website. I did the niche that I though I was passionate about. I’m really into yoga, so I thought I going to rank some yoga terms.
So, I ranked yoga guide, and yoga travel. Guess what, it didn’t make any money. The second time around I decided that I’m just going to make a website about a product. Something physical, something that will actually sell, and I went after a specific type of ergonomic chair and started ranking the best blank chair, blank chair reviews, and then finally saw I was maxed out at number one there and got it up to like $600 per month.
Daryl Rosser: Nice.
Matt Diggity: Okay, this is great. I’m making it work somewhat in the affiliate SEO. How come I’m not making thousands of dollars. Then at that point is when I talked to my mentor at the time and asked, how do you turn $600 into $6,000, what do you do at this point?
He gave me a bunch of CRO tips. That helped for sure. Also, expanding on key word research. But, the main thing, and I’ve talked about this before on my blog, is I just deployed more and more sites. Eventually I was locked in for number one, two, three, four, for the same key word and then that turned a $600 niche into a $2,000 niche. Pretty much, that’s what it boils down too.
Daryl Rosser: Nice man. I like that the approach isn’t, find something that works, then try to launch all these different things and copy it in different niches. It’s just double down on what’s already working.
Matt Diggity: Yeah, yeah. I mean the great thing about it is that I had the blue print. I took good notes on what kind of links and anchors that it took to get that first site to number one, so it was just a matter of duplication.
Daryl Rosser: Absolutely. How did you stumble into, like you’re in the chairs niche, how did you get into that initially? Was it just random, or?
Matt Diggity: I had a bad back before.
Daryl Rosser: Fair enough.
Matt Diggity: No creativity back then and I was like, looking around my house, chair, let’s do that.
Daryl Rosser: It’s cool though that you did that and it actually worked though. It shows that you don’t need to be some mastermind, especially for products and stuff like that.
Matt Diggity: Yeah, absolutely. I’m the worst at niche selection too, by the way. I admit that, and that’s why we have programs like Lead Spring so niche’s can come to me.
Daryl Rosser: Perfect man. What would you change if you had to start out again today and you wanted to hit $1,000 a month as fast as you could from affiliate SEO?
Matt Diggity: I would have just gone harder and faster. Right now, today, May 24th, 2017. Today’s the best it’s every going to be for affiliate SEO. It’s never going to be easier tomorrow, or the month after that, or the year after that, so the time it now. Just go all in on what’s working and there’s going to be no regrets in hindsight.
Daryl Rosser: Absolutely man, so test something out, find out what works, and just scale it, and scale it, and scale it.
Matt Diggity: Yeah.
Daryl Rosser: In that specific field, not just more sites. Like, double down, more sites. Figure out how you can increase the conversions and basically make what’s really working work better.
Matt Diggity: Exactly.
Daryl Rosser: Cool man. Any more final tips, you went through that really quick. Any final tips for the beginners that are just starting out and earning less than $1,000 a month now.
Matt Diggity: Just stick to exactly what I said. At the same time, don’t just stick to the particular vertical that you’re going for. Which, in my case, was a particular type of ergonomic chair. Just because you found something that works doesn’t mean it’s the best niche to be in.
In hindsight, that particular niche took more PBNs and more time of mine to rank than Garcinia Cambosia.
Daryl Rosser: Okay. Interesting.
Matt Diggity: At the same time, keep doubling down on what you know working, but also branch off and testing the different uses and see if you can find that jackpot.
Daryl Rosser: Okay, so balance that in. So, you want to scale what’s already working, but then you also need to consider that there could be better niches that you could be in.
Matt Diggity: Exactly.
Daryl Rosser: Absolutely. That makes sense. I mean, your not still in the chairs niche, or if you are, then you’re not still just in that niche. So, it’s about figuring out different things.
Matt Diggity: Exactly.
Daryl Rosser: Cool man. That’s pretty much it. Just nice and short and some real quick advice if you want to hit $1,000 a month, that kind of struggling in that stage. So, that’s for joining me and that pretty much wraps it up. Thanks man.
Matt Diggity: Yeah, glad to help. Take care.
Aqib bought a site and applied basic SEO (PBNs, onpage, etc) to scale it up
Daryl Rosser: Aqib, thank you for joining me today. Let’s just go straight into it, how did you hit your first consistent $1,000 a month from affiliate SEO?
Aqib Nazir: Thank you for having me here Daryl. Well, I started my SEO career officially in September of 2016, not long ago. I research a lot of stuff on internet that all talked about content is king and backlinks and stuff like that. I was overwhelmed with the details.
Even, my first affiliate website, I started it the wrong way. I started the wrong way-
Daryl Rosser: What do you mean by that?
Aqib Nazir: I didn’t get into on page optimization. Yeah, what I mean by that is, I didn’t take care about optimization like, I didn’t even knew if something like that existed, back in September 2016. After that, I got to know you from some of the Facebook groups.
Your Facebook group was the first one that I joined, it was the first SEO group actually. I joined back in September I guess. From there I got to know two more cool guys, Matt Diggity and Charles Floate. So, those three and you, including you, are on a lot.
You are the guy who told me about the PBNs and stuff. Then, I had 10 PBNs that I had formed links to my affiliate sites, but they were not working. I came across Matt Diggity’s guide to test PBNs. I tested PBNs and weeded out the ones that were bad.
And yeah, it worked. And the on page optimization guide from Charles Floate and Matt Diggity, they are awesome.
I would like to share a personal experience with you. Like a personal analogy that actually consider. So, OnPage Optimization ignored a lot of the SEOs. Like, they are always run from backlinks.
Actually, this is a thing that if you publish a content and you’re seeing it on page five, or page four, this means that Google doesn’t like your content. By sending your backlinks, what are you trying to prove?
If, when you publish your website and your on page is good and your land on the page two, or page three, that means Google likes your content and now you send backlinks to prove your worth. But if you are not landing on page three, or page four, or page five, what are you trying to prove by sending 100 backlinks, or 1,000 backlinks? Nothing.
I think that 80% or 90%, or more, your OnPage SEOs are important and don’t try the key word stuff.
Daryl Rosser: So, what finally worked?
Aqib Nazir: What worked for me? Yeah, on page SEO optimization. Once your OnPage is perfect, now I’m published post seven days ago, the keyword difficult was medium and now I’m seeing that keyword on page two.
Another interesting thing I experienced over the past few months was that I found a keyword that had 6,000 monthly searches, I optimized the post for that specific keyword, and after a week or 10 days.
Now, this is off my keyword, the keywords that I was ranking for and I found another keyword that I never know about with 8,000 monthly searches, my website was ranking on page one.
What I learned from that experience is that when you’re targeting a keyword don’t over optimize it. Optimization is very important. A month ago I learned from all of you guys, I’m just sharing what worked for me. On page optimization, this is what your focus should be on.
And, another thing, when doing keyword research, a lot of SEOs ignore the keywords that are not buyer intent. Can buy specific for example but they are not ready to best our reviews. I actually went the other way. I tried to rank a keyword that was not buy intent and it was simply the name of the product.
Daryl Rosser: Okay.
Aqib Nazir: So actually, not the brand name, but it was the name of that product. Like it’s a table or a chair. Specific table or chair, and I’m ranking pretty well, I’m on page one. Page one, position one, two, three.
So, when doing keyword research, like you should believe less in tools and more on your common sense and do manual analysis as well off the key words. Like, if a tool is telling you that they keyword difficult is 40, or 50, do a manual analysis, go check the pages that are ranking on number one page. So, you’ll get a better idea.
This is how I improved me website from nothing to more than $2,000 per month within 5 to 6 months.
Daryl Rosser: It’s crazy man. Cool. How many websites was that? That you’re running to hit that first $1,000 a month?
Aqib Nazir: Well, right now I have four websites that are making money. Like, most of them about $800 Lira, so that’s per accumulated affiliate income, around 24, 25, or 2,600. I plan to hit my goal of 10,000 by 2017.
Daryl Rosser: I’m sure you’ll make it man. How long did it take to build those four websites up?
Aqib Nazir: So, one of the last websites that I started in January 2017, it was built on a $5 expired domain from Fiverr and that website made $1,400 in the past month.
Daryl Rosser: Wow. Very quick.
Aqib Nazir: Now with what I’ve learned and experienced. The best thing that I’ve learned for SEO is what works is your test. You tested yourself. If want to do on page optimization, backlinks, whatever, you keep testing.
A few months ago there was a post, I don’t know who shared, some group that talked about, is it better to have one lead website with links 10,000, or different 10 websites that make 1,000 each.
So, basically, I went with the concept of having more websites and that really helped because on each website, I tried different stuff. I test different stuff and I learned something from there and then I picked the best, something that worked for me. And then I applied that to the upcoming sites. The testing is the key.
Daryl Rosser: Okay. So, what would your tip be for someone that’s at zero now, like now many sites for something like that? And they want to go out there and hit like $1,000 a month, should they launch a few sites, how do the find the keywords?
We’ve got very little time, so you can condense it into a very, very, quick answer. What would your advice be?
Aqib Nazir: I would initially advise to start with at least two sites. Why? Because there’s a lot of SEOs, like their ramp up can word SEO advice on there and sometimes you get all of them with all the information and you’re like, what should I actually be doing?
So you end up mixing all that advice. So, I would say start with at least two websites, each with a different ranking method and I’m sure something would work for you. If it doesn’t work, you will learn at least.
Daryl Rosser: Absolutely. And just to confirm, you’re an Amazon affiliate?
Aqib Nazir: Yeah. I do Amazon pure Amazon.
Daryl Rosser: Okay. So, the take aways to summarize for someone. Focus heavily on on-page SEOs. Should at least get to page 5 before you start building links. And then just test things and build multiple sites initially because you want to again, test them again to figure out what works.
Aqib Nazir: Exactly. That’s what I do.
Daryl Rosser: Awesome man.
Aqib Nazir: Then once you’ve gone through, if there’s something that worked for you in a specific niche. Then what I personally prefer is that I start another site in the same nation and try to dominate the first three positions. Suggestion by Matt Diggity and other pros.
Daryl Rosser: To scale what works. All right man, that very wraps it up. Hey, thanks for your time.
Aqib Nazir: Exactly.
Daryl Rosser: It’s been great chatting.
Aqib Nazir: No problem. Thanks for having me with you.
Daryl Rosser: All right. That wraps it up.
Clarentino built multiple EMD style sites focused on the forex niche, then gets paid a commission of peoples deposits
Clarentino, thank you for joining me for this episode. Let’s just go straight into it. I’m really curious how did you hit your first consistent $1,000 a month with affiliate SEO?
Clarentino Aduk: Okay, yeah, actually, I’m just like most newbies. I got started in 2012.
Daryl Rosser: That’s quite a while ago.
Clarentino Aduk: Yeah, when I joined, bring the fresh review. I learned a lot about actually building blogs and also ranking them. But, you know, I used to target click bang, keyword, product keywords on click bang, but I didn’t get much success on that.
Daryl Rosser: Just to competitive, or what?
Clarentino Aduk: Yes, quite competitive because I was targeting like the click product names. Like, for example I had a site, bring the fresh reviews dot net, so you know it was quite competitive actually. I managed to rank, but I was penalized and so on.
But, I got my first success selling the Forex niche. Basically, we have Forex broker and so on selling, we are targeting Forex traders. So, basically, I build the sites, I target the broker name and also the country, so for example, FX Primus then Malaysia dot net for example. Then, I managed to rank these websites and so on.
Daryl Rosser: How many websites do you build out? Like a lot of them?
Clarentino Aduk: Yeah, along the years, I built a lot of them. A lot of them didn’t work out, but the ones that did actually, they provided some recurrent affiliate income today. Usually the sites that I built they are just, very, very, small niche sites only around eight pages and so on.
Daryl Rosser: EMTs?
Clarentino Aduk: Yes, EMTs. And, I’m still doing EMTs up to today. So, I’ll build EMTs, I’ll target the keywords, like the broker names and the country and I’ll run them using the backlinks and so on.
Daryl Rosser: So, when you hit that first $1,000 month from doing the Forex niche. How many sites was that split between?
Clarentino Aduk: It’s probably around three sites only.
Daryl Rosser: Okay.
Clarentino Aduk: Only three web sites. Because, when I create the websites I will have sign-ups in the Forex. Usually the main goal is not to sell them upfront, but to recoup traders. So, usually I will create these blogs and provide content, what is Forex, and so on.
So, as I build these blogs I will drive the traffic, these people will come to my websites and I will have my affiliate link on the article. They will sign up, then after sign up, these brokers they have this whole call center. They will call the people and so on and they will ask these prospects to sign up and deposit money and so on.
So, the money comes when the traders start to trade, basically. So, I will get like a percentage of the trading volume of traders. So, every day we will get one or two initially then it will start to grow to 30 signups to 50 signups a day. When that happens, I will have more than 100 people trading in a day, so that’s where I start to get-
Daryl Rosser: Got it. And, if your sites are ever, I will say, penalized or anything, or shut down, you’re still going to get commissions, right? Because you’ve already referred the people.
Clarentino Aduk: Yes, yes, yes. Very true.
Daryl Rosser: Okay. So, what sort of percentage do you get paid for sending someone to a Forex site?
Clarentino Aduk: Usually, the brokers, they earning from a spreads. So, I also get a percentage from a spread. Usually around $5 to $10 per lock. Basically, my job is just to general leads, sell leads to the brokers, and let the brokers do their job and also, of course, I can add additional services like if they join this particular broker, then they can also join my no private must mine.
That means I will get like weekly analysis and so on. But, it’s not an analysis, just like a prediction of the market, where the market is going and so on. So, it’s just like that. Just getting the traders and allowing them to trade everyday. That’s where the money comes in.
Daryl Rosser: Awesome. So, you position yourself like a Forex expert and then you send them to theirs as and affiliate link. Then, you like train them up and give them incentives for joining those specific offers.
Clarentino Aduk: Yeah. Basically, that’s how I do it. But, at times I also just position myself just in front, just by being on top of Google. Most of my leads come from, they’re searching for broker names, for example like InstaForex, one of the bigger brokers around.
So, they will just type in InstaForex review, or InstaForex, they usually combine it with country name, like they want to find is there a representative in particular country. Like, the place I’m staying in Malaysia. They’ll type something like InstaForex Malaysia and I’ll be like on top of it.
I have an EMD website just talking about InstaForex and I get a lot of signups from these websites. So, basically, I also have like, not only InstaForex, I’m also working with other brokers, so I’ll just combine. I’ll have a lot of brokers and also different countries. So, I’ll just use the same formula basically leveraging on the search of these brokers.
Daryl Rosser: Fair enough. So, I’ll ask a couple questions and then we’ll wrap it up. First one is, what does your site kind of look like, without giving everything away. But, like you said, it’s like a review, so is it a 500 word, 1,000 word reviews, have videos and media? What’s the page look like?
Clarentino Aduk: Most of them are just like review sites. Most of them are review sites. Actually I can show it to you if you want. But, I’ll have an introduction, for example I’m targeting this one particular broker. I’ll give an example, so what I’m go to do is I’ll put a review as the homepage, so I’ll say like InstaForex is a broker from Russia and so on.
Then I’ll put like, the homepage should be something like a resource page. They’ll be links to different sections of the page, like background, how to trade, how to open an account, and then I’ll have different front page like deposits and withdrawals. It’s just like a replica of the main website, only more targeted towards the particular country that I’m targeting.
Daryl Rosser: Go it. Okay. Final question then, how do you decide a niche or to find the office, like how do you find this stuff to start promoting these companies?
Clarentino Aduk: Usually I’ll start from Google planner. I’ll check the searches online, so they have like recent searches, because I usually will segment based on country. Like, I’ll check in South Africa, or in Vietnam, or even in Thailand.
In different countries, just for this, especially for the broker names, I will check. So, if they have recent search for example, 2,000 to 5,000 search a month I’ll probably do something about it. Like, I’ll create, I’ll find an EMD for it. I’ll combine it with a country, country name. I try and rank for that particular broker, for that particular keyword.
Daryl Rosser: Awesome. Makes sense to check in the keyword planner and test it out.
Clarentino Aduk: Yes, yes, that’s true.
Daryl Rosser: All right man.
Clarentino Aduk: Yeah.
Daryl Rosser: Sorry, you can keep going.
Clarentino Aduk: So, but of course there are some brokers they have good landing pages and some they don’t have good landing pages, so I prefer broker that have good conversions-
Daryl Rosser: Makes sense.
Clarentino Aduk: I don’t need to do a lot of pre-sell on my website, so there are a couple of brokers that actually have quite good conversions on the website. So, these other brokers that I’m more prone to sell, actually.
Daryl Rosser: Testing that then.
Clarentino Aduk: Yeah, I’ve tested a lot actually. I work with only a few brokers right now. Those that give huge high conversion and also huge commissions.
Daryl Rosser: Got it. All right man. That’s awesome. We’re getting a little bit over our schedule, but that’s fine. Where can people find you, if they want to connect with you, and reach out?
Clarentino Aduk: You can find me at IMGURUSECRETS.com.
Daryl Rosser: All right. On Facebook, or anything?
Clarentino Aduk: Sorry?
Daryl Rosser: On Facebook, or anything like that?
Clarentino Aduk: Yeah, you can just add me on Facebook. You can type my name Clarentino Aduk and I’m around.
Daryl Rosser: All right man, thanks again for joining me.
Clarentino Aduk: Thank you very much.
Daryl Rosser: This was fun.
Clarentino Aduk: Yeah. Okay thank you Daryl.